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RFC585 - ARPANET users interest working group meeting

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Network Working Group D. Crocker

Request for Comments: 585 UCLA-NMC

Category: Users N. Neigus

NIC: 18259 BBN-NET

J. Feinler

SRI-ARC

J. Iseli

MITRE-TIP

6-Nov-73

Arpanet Users Interest Working Group Meeting

A new group, the Arpanet Users Interest Working Group (USING) is the

outgrowth of a meeting held in Boston on May 22-23, 1973. The

meeting, cochaired by Dave Crocker, UCLA-NMC, and Nancy Neigus, BBN,

followed BBN's Resource Sharing Workshop.

PURPOSE

The USING meeting was seen by the members as a forum for Network

Users to air complaints, exchange information, voice desires, and

present concrete proposals for the design and implementation of

user-oriented Network capabilities.

The group will devote itself to lobbying on behalf of user interests,

to promoting and facilitating resource sharing, to improving user

interfaces (support), and to studies of standardization. The

ultimate goal will be provide users identification of, and

facilitated Access to, whatever resources on the Network they might

wish to use.

Neigus, Crocker, and Iseli of MITRE were selected to define the

objectives and goals of USING in more detail, and they will present

their discussion in a later publication.

ATTENDEES

Dave Crocker, UCLA-NMC, Co-Chairperson

Nancy Neigus, BBN, Co-Chairperson

Ken Bowles, UCSD-CC

Frank Brignoli, NSRDC

Jim Calvin, CASE-10

Jake Feinler, NIC

Wayne Hathaway, NASA-AMES

Jean Iseli, MITRE

Mike Kudlick, NIC

Mike Padlipsky, MIT-MULTICS

Lee Richardson, USC-ISI

Ron Stoughton, UCSB

Jim White, NIC

Steve Wolf, UCLA-CCN

Joe Wyatt, Harvard

CATEGORIES OF CONCERN

The meeting began by attempting to create a relatively complete list

of topics directly relevant to users. The intention was to then

discuss some of these categories in detail. The categories of

concern to users are listed here along with a brief outline of the

discussion and recommendations associated with each category. Not

all topics were discussed fully due to time limitations. It was

acknowledged that some of the recommendations were quite extensive,

but that they should be mentioned even though their implementation

would be far off.

1. Online and Offline Documentation, Information Sharing, and

Consulting

a. There is a general need to upgrade the quality, technical

accuracy, timeliness, dissemination, and format of both online

and offline documentation.

b. Documentation should avoid "buzz" Words (jargon), and should

follow easily understood syntax conventions, abbreviation

standards, reference citation rules, etc. However, there

probably cannot be a standard format for writing documentation.

c. Offline documentation should be well indexed, should contain a

good table-of-contents, and should be written in an easily

browsable format. Online documentation should be presented in

a browse mode with well-labeled categories of information as

well as a keyword search capability.

d. Documentation should be identified with date/author/version

information, particularly in large online documents, so that it

is easier to keep the most current version of a document and to

query the author, in the event of problems with the

documentation.

e. Network news needs to be gathered and intelligently distributed

to users (Network PR).

f. Users need several levels and styles of access to

documentation, whether online or offline, based upon their

eXPerience, interests, and preferences.

g. Each server site should also provide some degree of information

variety in online "help" mechanisms, tailored to fit the needs

and experience of different user types.

In addition, entering "Help" from the EXEC level of a system

should direct a user to ALL procedural-type information.

h. New users should be carefully introduced to the Network by way

of a New Users Packet (NUP). Since the MITRE-TIP group is the

official contact for new users, they should design such a

packet and incorporate suggestions from USING.

This packet should eventually contain, among other things:

a definition of, and introduction to the Network

a list of sites

step-by-step scenarios for accessing functional documents an

related online items

a definition of who can get on the Network

some quick-reference charts showing a list of Network

services available to new users

and an introduction to Network groups, including USING, as

well as the names of Network consultants, assistants, and

the like.

i. Information-accessing mechanisms should be provided for users,

including interactive tutorials, user scenarios, and other

training mechanisms.

j. A Network-wide "who, what, where and when" information system

should be implemented. (This was nicknamed the Network Yellow

Pages.) Discussion of support for such a system focused on

oBTaining some form of central funding.

k. The concept of `Regional Agents' for collecting information for

the Resource Notebook was discussed.

Several felt that what was really needed was a `rebirth' of the

original concept of Technical Liaison as the person who

provides information to the NIC and technical assistance to

users.

There was concern voiced about the number of people collecting

information and the redundancy of the requests received by

sites.

There was also concern about what incentives there are (or

should be or can be) for Liaisons to perform their tasks

adequately by providing truly up-to-date and complete

information (carrot vs. stick).

l. Server Sites should provide a variety of consulting services to

supplement `help' and general information services.

Consultants could represent the whole Network, a group of

sites, a single site, general areas such as software, or

specific applications processes. This could fit into the

workings of the Network Servers Group.

2. Standardization for the User

a. If they so desire, users should only have to learn one

Executive (command) language, rather than 20. Rather than have

every site change its interface to the user, it was suggested

that there be a Network Common Command Language Protocol which

is translated to/from the host's own Executive command

language.

As with FTP and RJE, a human user should be able to type in CCL

Protocol directly, though many sites may want to allow a local

user to type in their local Executive language, and then they

will translate it into CCLP, for the foreign host.

Any Network Common Command Language should be compatible with

batch systems as well as with interactive systems, and should

provide an effective means for batch job submission and

control.

Bowles, Hathaway, and Stoughton volunteered to outline specs

for Network command language that would be compatible with

ideas suggested by Padlipsky and discussed at the meeting.

b. One of the functions to included in a Common Command Language

is a simple editor, which Padlipsky has outlined. The editor

should be easy for users to learn as well as for servers to

implement or interface to their own editors.

3. Status/Measurement of Site Performance

a. A variety of performance measures, for the individual sites,

needs to be derived, acquired, maintained, and made available

to users.

This could include some attempt to measure average "response

time", relative costs (relative to type of task, that is),

availability/reliability, etc.

b. Mechanisms are needed for software certification and for

measuring and verifying the accuracy and/or reliability of

systems, hardware, protocols, applications software, etc.

4. User Feedback Mechanisms

a. There is a need for a uniform Network gripe/suggestion

mechanism. This should cover several types of gripes,

including program bugs and service complaints.

b. Each user registering a complaint deserves immediate

acknowledgement and some indication of what, if any, action

will be taken.

c. The NIC should set up Network ident groups for Principal

Investigators, Liaisons, Station Agents, Accounts

Administrators, Consultants, etc., so that users can easily

direct their comments, inquiries and mail to these groups.

d. A Network Servers Group should be started, to coordinate the

activities (to the extent possible) of the servers (a Server's

Cartel?). It would also provide a focus for user complaints

and suggestions.

(The group was originally dubbed the "Tobacco Institute". The

Tobacco Institute acts as a representative for the disparate

Tobacco companies, and attempts to convince the public that

smoking is good for them.)

The point of the Servers Group -- rather than trying to

convince the Network public that servers are good for them --

would be for servers to help each other with common tasks (such

as documentation) that are too big for each to handle alone.

This eventually works in the users interest, because the

servers (in the Network free-market economy) are dependent

upon the users for their livelihood.

There should be cooperation between the Server Group and USING,

but the groups would NOT be comprised of the same people. They

are on opposite sides of the product.

e. Station Agents should supply users with information of a

clerical nature such as names, phone numbers, titles,

documentations, etc. To be able to do this, the Agents must

first HAVE this information.

5. Messages to Users

a. Messages to users, such as error messages or diagnostics,

should be simple, clear, and meaningful to users.

b. The user should have the ability to control notifications given

to him, by being able to queue messages or refuse them.

c. Users should be able to suppress diagnostics or to specify

abbreviated or expanded versions.

6. Tailoring of Resources for Users

a. Interfaces to users should support different levels of user

proficiency, without being a burden to the more proficient

user.

That is, a new user needs more prompting, etc. A more

experienced user does not need and DOES NOT WANT such

prompting. So the capabilities of the interface, which are not

needed by a specific user, should be transparent.

b. A method for work flow management that permits a user to set up

a sequence of computer tasks that are contingent upon one

another is needed. The user should be able to describe this

sequence interactively and then be able to detach and continue

with other work while the sequence of tasks is being carried

out.

7. Personal Information Management System

a. Users need a system for managing all types of machine-based

contacts such as mail, links, journal items, etc.

Such a system should `log' what has been received and allow the

user to keep a copy, if desired.

It should also provide the user with options for organizing his

personal information.

b. A personal `calendar' or reminder system would be handy,

especially if it allowed one to look ahead to coming events as

well as to check events for the current day or week.

c. A `return to sender' feature is needed in the Network-wide mail

address system.

d. (Discussion of the current work on the Mail Protocol indicated

that some of these ideas are already being considered)

8. Uniform Accounting Procedures and Online Status of Accounts

a. This topic was covered in detail by sections of the Resource

Sharing Workshop. It is mentioned here only because it is a

problem of real concern to users.

9. Trial Usage and Browsing

a. Ideally, users should be allowed some `free' sampling of

systems and features available at each site. Practically, this

presents problems of space allocation, accounting, consulting,

etc. Although none of these problems are easy to solve

equitably, an attempt should still be made to provide some free

usage to everyone.

b. Several types of trial usage should be considered, such as for

those who will make an immediate commitment and those who wish

merely to sample, without making any commitment.

10. Prelogon Facilities

a. Some facilities should be available as prelogon facilities, so

that any user can access them whether or not he has an account,

Directory, etc., at a given site. Some sites will not be able

to support many of these functions, so a required set must be

kept to a minimum.

11. Remote User Facilitation

a. Users not only need help with actual use of systems from a

remote site, but they also need facilitation of administrative

tasks. Station Agents should be able to handle most of these

problems or transfer the user to the proper person. System

access requirements, account and billing problems, and document

acquisition need particular attention.

b. There should be a simple mechanism for users to acquire/update

information in functional documents such as the Resource Note-

book and in files such as identification files. Publications

or files of this sort should combine the collective input of

all the users.

12. Transportability of Resources and Information

a. Users should be able to easily transfer information, such as

files, memos, mail, online documentation, (programs?!?) etc.,

from one site to another.

13. Network Utilities

a. Should distributed data banks and similar features be

considered Network utilities that can be used by all?

The idea of "Network Utilities" was recognized as an

interesting one by the group, but there was little agreement as

to what constitutes Network utilities or how they should be

supported.

CURRENT PLANS

1. Neigus, Crocker, and Iseli will draft the scope, objectives,

goals, and priorities of USING and will submit their

recommendations for approval by the members.

2. MITRE will design a New User's Packet incorporating ideas from

USING.

3. Bowles, Hathaway, and Stoughton will write preliminary specs for a

Network Common Command Language Protocol. All members should

suggest a list of commands for consideration.

4. Padlipsky will produce specifications for a simple, standard

editor (NETED) which could easily be implemented by server hosts.

5. A general Users Group (NIC ident = USERS) will be formed, to allow

any interested person to monitor user-oriented activities,

especially those of USING. Anyone interested in being in USERS

should contact Dave Crocker (DHC).

6. Activities of the group will be reported in the ARPAnet News, and

a user's forum column will be made available for user's comments.

7. The group will meet again in the Fall of 1973 at the Network

Information Center in Menlo Park, California.

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