原载:新浪山野论坛
原贴架构(各贴子之间的回复关系)
Stats updated to 12/31/2000.
# Mountain Ascents Deaths
1 Cho Oyu 1211 28
2 Everest 1314 167
3 G2 520 16
4 Dhaulagiri 298 55
5 Broad Peak 233 18
6 Manaslu 198 51
7 Nanga Parbat 186 61
8 Shishapangma 180 19
9 K2 189 49
10 G1 162 17
11 Makalu 167 20
12 Kangchenjunga 162 39
13 Lhotse 151 9
14 Annapurna 109 55
Totals 5080 604
Note the information above is based
on EverestNews.com research and
conclusions from our work.
This is not an exact science.
The summits acknowledged by EverestNews.
com should be considered an opinion
formed by our staff after contact
with the proper agencies, climbers
and other record keepers in the
climbing community. EverestNews.com
certainly does not consider these
stats as historical fact. Therefore,
EverestNews.com claims all copyrights
on our list. EverestNews.coms
list is exclusive to EverestNews.com
with some minor differences between
our lists and others lists.
If you would like to use our work
e-mail us at copyright@everestnews.com
so we can discuss the matter.
Also Note: As it is impossible to keep
running stats on all of these items
at the same time, therefore always
take note of the last date updated.
Please notify us of differences in opinion.
Also Note: Only the highest point (Summit),
the true summit of any peak, is considered
the "Summit" in the opinion of EverestNews.com
and in these stats." The South Summit of Everest,
the Central Summit of Shisha Pangma,
or any other "lower point" on a mountain is not
considered here, only the highest point on each peak.
" For what the greatest climbers in the world
have to say about the "Summit," see our Quest for 14 page.
The below data is a little more detailed but
is only updated with stats of 12/31/99.
*%
# Mountain Climbers Repeats Ascents By Women Deaths
1 Cho Oyu 998 92 1090 82 23 2.1
2 Everest 873 299 1172 55 165 14.1
3 G2 456 12 468 43 15 3.2
4 Dhaulagiri 290 8 298 11 53 17.8
5 Broad Peak 212 5 217 9 18 8.3
6 Manaslu 189 1 190 6 51 26.8
7 Nanga Parbat 184 2 186 9 61 32.8
8 Shishapangma 165 2 167 7 19 11.4
9 K2 163 1 164 5 49 29.9
10 G1 161 3 164 6 17 10.4
11 Makalu 156 0 156 5 19 12.2
12 Kangchenjunga 146 7 153 1 38 24.8
13 Lhotse 128 1 129 3 8 6.2
14 Annapurna 106 3 109 5 55 50.5
Totals 2767 436 4663 247 591 12.7
引用者注:最后一纵行数字为Ratio of Deaths to Summits
*The Ratio above is percentage of the
ratio of Deaths to Summits climbing the peak.
Note the information below is based
on EverestNews.com research and
conclusions from our work.
This is not an exact science.
The summits acknowledged by EverestNews.com
should be considered an opinion formed by
our staff after contact with the proper agencies,
climbers and other record keepers in the
climbing community. EverestNews.com certainly
does not consider these stats as historical fact.
Therefore, EverestNews.com claims all
copyrights on our list. EverestNews.coms
list is exclusive to EverestNews.com with
some minor differences between our lists
and others lists. If you would like to
use our work e-mail us at copyright@everestnews.com
so we can discuss the matter.
Also Note: As it is impossible to keep
running stats on all of these items
at the same time, therefore always take
note of the last date updated. Please notify
us of differences in opinion. Also Note:
Only the highest point (Summit),
the true summit of any peak,
is considered the "Summit" in the opinion
of EverestNews.com and in these stats."
The South Summit of Everest,
the Central Summit of Shisha Pangma,
or any other "lower point" on a mountain is not
considered here, only the highest point on each peak.
" For what the greatest climbers in the
world have to say about the "Summit,"
一些看法:
我对统计数字持有一贯的怀疑态度。对地方的如此,外国的亦然。只不过程度问题罢了。呵呵,开个玩笑,是不是“统计加估计,大家通通气,最后都满意”。不过这两笔数据倒是不应该存在这样情况。
补充:
提交时间:11:30:09 07月04日
还没写完,怎么就给发了。
这两笔数据还是没有给出统计的原始来源和统计方法等等。
我推测可能是从尼泊尔有关登记部门得来的数据。因为一是尼泊尔的对登山服务非常重视,登山也很发达。大部分的国际队伍都愿意跑到那里去。二是从我接触的情况看,西藏登协的一些统计资料并不是非常完善。而这应当是管理的一项重要的基础工作。因此不太可能取得数据。
我认为一些攀登情况有可能没有被统计进去
一是中国的一些攀登情况有可能没有被统计进去。除了上面的原因外,还有交流不够等原因。
二是一些不以取得证书为目的的攀登者可能不包括在内,比如一些被“疯子”们都称为“怪物”的。还有就是一些“偷登”的。1986年偷登珠穆朗玛的新西兰姑娘白丽纱,很可能是第一位无氧登顶珠峰的妇女,可惜没有办手续,未被确认记录。据说她还曾一度创造高海拔make love的世界记录(加一峰突击营,7500米)。
三是尼泊尔的数据也值得怀疑。一些国际向导和夏尔巴曾告诉我,尼泊尔是王室统治,不明的因素很多,和一些登记部门底下沟通沟通,很容易得到登顶证书。一些国际商业队,有的队员没有登顶,但全体队员最后都拿到了登顶证书。
探险历史学家 版权所有:-mh 原作提交时间:00:26:57 07月05日
这两笔数据还是没有给出统计的原始来源和统计方法等等。
everestnews.com上的东西可能是从比较知名的探险/登山历史
家们那弄来的.他们的工作态度非常认真严谨,信息都尽量从多方
核实.关于他们你可以从这找起
http://www.adventurestats.com/pages/history.htm
1986年偷登珠穆朗玛的新西兰姑娘白丽纱,很可能是第一位无
氧登顶珠峰的妇女,可惜没有办手续,未被确认记录。
是88年.她的登顶争议很多.是属于"xxx喧称登顶但不能核实而且有
争议"的.很多地方有记录.没记录的是因为维护记录自己不信.官方
承认不承认本身在登山界没很大价值,所有登山发达的国家都从来没
人发证书.靠的是报告证明成绩.中尼当地政府给的登顶证书对他们
最多是个纪念品,和带回去的佛像经帆什么的差不多.
re 版权所有:本营原作提交时间:09:43:42 07月05日
他们的工作态度非常认真严谨,
看了一下,他们的工作态度确实非常认真严谨,资料有一定的可信性。但也证实了我的判断,一些夏尔巴人的成绩和努力受到忽视。可能也有他们不知道如何介绍和联系有关。
》她的登顶争议很多.是属于"xxx喧称登顶但不能核实而且有
争议"的.很多地方有记录.没记录的是因为维护记录(者本人)自己不信.
关于记录的观点我有同感。不过这个姑娘应该尊重当地的法律和管理制度。她两次偷登,巴基斯坦和尼泊尔都给她发出禁山令。
你还真能搞出不少万花筒式的资料库,正的邪门的都有。看来会分析不如资料全。
补充一些统计分析 版权所有:本营原作提交时间:16:40:30 07月04日